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OK hello everyone, I'm terrace licking on my health professions advisor here at CSU and please bear with us. This is the one of the first times were doing this presentation.
We would like to introduce yourself.
Hi, I'm Lily Deuterium, the assistant director of Health Professions advising. I'll be answering questions in the chat and if there's any tech issues just feel free to put those in the chat.
So today I'm going to talk with you about our office and how we support students who are pursuing careers in health professions.
First, we're going to tell you about how advising works at CSU. You have a primary major advisor in your academic Department or college, or an undeclared advisor. If you haven't chosen your major yet.
Their role is to help you choose the right major. Take the classes you need to graduate, make a graduation plan, discuss campus resources, etc. Their primary focuses on helping you graduate. Then as a pre health are pretty bad student. You also have a secondary health professions advisor, which is where we come in.
Our goal is to help you become the most competitive, candid possible for health professions programs, which is not exactly the same as graduating. Though we all we are here to help you in that process and journey as well, the reasons these are not exactly the same, is that there are a number of Health professions that don't actually require bachelors degrees. The interesting pharmacy in even most vet schools.
Those most teams entering in these programs do have a bachelors degree.
Before they start, so your major advisor will help you with glasses you need for graduation and will help you with the classes need to be competitive as a candidate for health professions programs.
We also talk with you about everything you need to do.
Outside the classroom to come the most competitive Taylor possible.
And will go into that more later detail.
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Are you talking to me? Terry, sorry my audio cut out.
I got it here. Sorry about that, as you could probably guess from this picture.
The answer is there is no perfect majors, but at schools, bad school, dental schools, PA schools. None of their care really about your major is.
They care about the courses you take.
In the grade you worked in, everything done outside the classroom. So volunteering, professional work, anything that may apply, holding your application and making you the most competitive Canada possible.
So I could do preparation.
First, we'll discuss the academic decided side of things or GPA is very important. We recommend aiming for 3.5 or higher to be really competitive. That being said, most in missions committees are using a holistic review process so they do look at a lot more than just your GPA.
Every program has a set of required prerequisite classes which you have to be take to be eligible.
In every program, is school is going to be a little bit different.
So medical schools prereqs will be a little bit different from PT schools.
Or nursing schools etc. Is serious. Medical school prereqs will be a little bit different from other medical schools. Most programs also like to see that you've taken upper division credits specifically in the hard Sciences.
And what they want to see is been very successful. So this usually means taking. Like I said, Upper Division credits in hard Sciences or the bagel Sciences. That is why it's common for students. Did shoes life sigh agers like biology, medical science, animal science or health exercise science?
Well, you could choose a major in English or history, for example. It really doesn't matter what made you choose, just that in the required courses for your desired profession or the school of your choice.
And we can help you make those decisions in your academic.
As you matriculate through school.
Your academic preparation. It's also important for you to develop relationships with faculty early in your time with college, so getting you know your your professors, which we understand might be a little hard given that.
You know the ring that I'm covered and social distancing is important, but we hope in the future that will be on in the near future will be on campus forever right now though, we are doing things from a distance and even though the school hands to be on campus in the fall, there may be certain practices that take place to maintain.
So your academic preparation ALS also includes things like.
Finding mentors that can.
Hopefully write you letters of recommendation and building a social network of support and a professional network that will hopefully lead to different opportunities both while you're in school and as you pursue a professional.
Um accreditation or profession.
So moving on the slide 5.
To keep competitive candid, we also courage you to get involved with outside the classroom. So volunteering opportunities in the community, whether that's working at a shelter or working with special pipes, populations like kids with disabilities, get it showing.
On your application that you have skills to work with others.
In a professional and personal.
On campus, I for example serve as the adviser for the book rehabilitation their therapy club.
The important thing is that you learn skills to develop as a leader, and you be so, for example, becoming a teaching assistant is another good idea. So building those relationships with your faculty members are going to be very important.
There are great opportunities to connect with faculty. All healthcare professionals are serving others, so you need to demonstrate that your commitment to service by volunteering or being.
This can be done in a clinical setting or non clinical city.
And it's something you can even start in high school I realized that most of you now finished high school. International experiences are not required, but we discussed them.
Because pre health students think they won't have enough time to study abroad. With all the difficulties versus.
So we want to share that you definitely can study abroad. There are a lot of different ways you can do this, but we encourage you to work closely with both your academic advisor and your health professions advisors to fit it all into your plan.
You can go broad for full semester. It takes science courses or go wherever the third in summer or even take an intensive international course through CSU that occurs over one of the breaks.
Uh, we take groups of students to Croatia for two weeks over over winter break.
I don't know if that will be happening this winter break, but it was something we did last winter break.
And what the students did they shadowed doctors and hospitals and had discussions about important topics in Healthcare.
Please don't do things because you think they look good on your application. Follow your passions and do what excites you.
And you'll learn school skills that are transferable to a career in Healthcare. It will be very clear in your application whether you did something because you really wanted to or because you thought it might make you look good and emissions to midis, definitely will care about this.
Alright, moving on to clinical experience.
Little experiences are very important to help you confirm to yourself that this is the right career for you and to become a competitive cannon every application asks.
Why do you want to be a doctor, vet, dentist, or anything? If you need to be able to answer that question.
You need to be able to question with strong examples. We encourage you to shadow someone in the profession that you're pursuing so you can see what a typical day looks like.
For students interested in healthcare, human health care professions, we have a very robust volunteer program with the local UC health hospitals. So each each semester or even sometimes during the summer we put 50 to 60 undergraduate volunteers in the hospitals.
And it's pretty rare for.
Four schools to have a program with hospitals like that. So we're very proud of that program and ahead. Great success, and I've heard wonderful feedback from students who participated.
Something that like I said, it's pretty unique.
There are so many jobs in different education levels, so you can, for example start as the nurse CNA a certified nursing aide which many of our students do when there's a variety of training programs in Fort Collins. What is offered through Columbine Healthcare and?
They they are intensive programs. They offer a also offered ones that are more extended and the unique thing is is if you actually go to work for them for another number of months you can.
It's even refund for your tuition.
So we've had a lot of students file that pit.
You can also work as a as a veterinary assistant or a medical scribe. There's there's a variety of ways you can gain experience while you're still in additional.
Just as we discuss with faculty, it's important to develop relationships with clinicians while you were getting these experiences, they can help mentor. You sometimes offer additional shadowing or other experiences, and hopefully right you. Those all important letters of recommendation.
The clinical experiences are very helpful.
Uh, choose the right path. Uh, in your career and become a competitive candidate. Every application is gonna ask you why do you want to be a doctor? That or dentist or anything you need to be able to answer this question.
We can we encourage you to seek opportunities.
Makayla Groeneweg
11:15:27 AM
How early can you start shadowing at places that help in studying your career choice?
Somebody going to accept its rates hold. I bought apologize for that.
We get a lot of questions about the percentage of CSU students accepted into professional programs, especially medical school. In veterinary school, ambition statistics are not a good indicator of what the basic competitive camera.
Because students can build a strong app application at any college or University we're over and over again from admissions committee that would ban students. Application is not where they went or what school they attended, or even what major. What matters is what they we already just.
Lilly Dethier
11:16:10 AM
As early as you want! Including in High School if there are opportunities available nearby. If you wait until College, you can start your first year if you want.
Classes raise test scores, clinical experiences. Volunteer research also institutions track and report these numbers in very different ways, so it's difficult to compare them between different schools.
We've looked at medical school, acceptance is over the last four years and approximately 45% of CSU students who applied have been accepted, which is pretty similar to the national average for veterinary school. Many schools think that they're more likely to be accepted if they attend CSU as an undergrad.
that is not true. As with all public veterinary schools.
CSU as a separate applicant pool for in state and out of state residents. Roughly half of the seats in the class or for Colorado residents and roughly half her for nonresidents. Approximately 200 and 250 residents apply each year in almost 2000. Nonresidents apply each year, so students who are.
Colorado residents are are going statistically to be in a much better pool.
There are also some seats reserved for students who live in western states that have special contracts or programs with Colorado, like the Witchy program.
Courtney Oser
11:17:48 AM
When can you start with the UC Health Volunteer Program?
OK, now I'm just kind of a snapshot of your undergraduate years. We really want to emphasize that most people think their career path will be more linear.
A straight in chronological, but that's actually not true. Substance do follow path you know, and when they decide the professor that they want.
Completing and they complete all course requirements and go straight into the program.
But I we, I don't believe that's the average student. Most professionals and healthcare and all industries really.
Their path was not, you know, straight and narrow. They maybe took some years.
Lilly Dethier
11:18:46 AM
You have to apply for the UCHealth Volunteer Program the semester before you would start. So if you want to start in the spring semester, you would need to apply at the end of the fall semester. The earliest you could start would be your second semester at CSU, but most start after they've been at CSU for 1 year
To build their application experience, you know whether that shadowing or working professional.
And it takes them a little while to figure out.
What they really wanted to do and how to get there. We also want to highlight that is becoming increasingly common for students to take one or two gap years.
Ryan Fuqua
11:19:40 AM
How often can CSU students talk to the pre-health advisors? What is the average?
60% of 1st year medical students have taken it with one gap year in the average age of 1st year. Vet students at CSU is actually 25. Seems take gap years for a variety of reasons. Studying for entrance exams, boosting their academic record, gaming more clinical experience, traveling, working or just taking a break.
Lilly Dethier
11:20:19 AM
We recommend you schedule a health professions advising appointment once per semester but you can email us or come in for another appointment whenever you need us. The average is 1.6 appointments per year
Our advice is are here to support you wherever you are a longer journey and we continue to work with Alam regardless of how long ago huge waited. So if you take a gap year, say one or two, we will still work with you. If you have any questions about how to apply, how to Ranger application, we review personal statements and will help you with that process as well. Of anything we can do to help. It continues beyond your graduation.
Uhm, and then you're the process of getting into the professional school.
We have four professional. We have four health professions.
And we're all here to support you and please check our website For more information. Feel free to email us if you have any follow-up questions and thank you for your time today. I once again I apologize. This may have been a little rocky, but this is the first time we're doing this and it's a little bit different for everyone and.
Lilly Dethier
11:21:01 AM
Most students meet with us less often their sophomore-junior year and then meet with us more when they're in the actual application cycle
So please, if you have any follow-up questions, let us know. Will be happy to answer them.
Lauren Dalecke-Sabandith
11:21:05 AM
Is Terry talking about a gap year between bachelors and professional school?
Courtney Oser
11:21:06 AM
Can you only do the UC Health Volunteer Program for one semester?
Well, is there anything you want to add?
Nope, that's great. I've answered a couple questions in the chat. Um, we didn't have a ton until a few minutes ago. And then maybe I'll just start answering some verbally. Unless you want to answer them, I'm happy either way.
Grace Gulig
11:21:41 AM
How do you get in contact with a health advisor
OK, so I'll go ahead and answer the that there's a question from Lauren is I was I talking about a gap here between bachelors and professional school? Yes, I was talking about that. Get here. So um, when you graduate from your undergraduate up, a lot of students will take a couple years off one or two.
To prepare their application to build their application and take maybe the professional exams that are required for your field. It's something that I think is helpful for students like said. The average age for students applying to vet school is 25 and for medical I think it's even later, right? Lilies 27.
That it depends on the school that that average age is for students who are entering bed. School at CSU is 25.
OK, oh, you know I always like to describe it. Is your academic career journey is.
Is not a Sprint, it's a marathon, so you have to pace yourself appropriately. You want to make sure that you become the most competitive candidate at the time you're applying.
Let's see what else do we have here?
Can only do that you see.
I can take the UC health volunteer program question. I have some numbers that will probably be helpful.
Lizzie Worsham
11:23:08 AM
Is that gap year more because they chose to take it or because they didn't make it in on the first try?
Sorry I didn't hear anything back from you Terry, so I'll just I can answer that. You see health volunteer program question.
But I am praying for you. I go ahead and answer that.
So the minimum commitment is actually six months after you are trained, and so that means you need to volunteer for at least two semesters. So if you were to start in the fall, you would need to also volunteer in spring. The average student actually volunteers for two years through that program. There are some pretty cool incentives that you are eligible for. The more hours you volunteer and there's actually a scholarship that it depends on the year, but it can be between one.
In $2000 that would go directly towards your CSU tuition and you are not eligible for that scholarship unless you volunteered for at least two years. So that's the average.
Do you want me to keep answering questions or do you want to answer them? Terry?
I can answer a couple of year. So how to get in touch with the health and pleasure so our emails are listed on the website whichishp.colostate.edu and they're like we said there are four of us you can choose to meet with any of us and schedule appointment. You can also call the.
God collaborative for student achievement, which is where were housed at CSU, and they can help you set up an appointment with us there. Like we said, there are several different ways and please if you have any difficulty at all, send us. Send us an email. We can answer questions. You know it is help if we can meet with you in person.
The next question is, is all.
Can I add something to that one Terry the getting in contact with us. So if you as an incoming student, we are actually at orientation. So you have to go to orientation this year. It's remote. Typically it's in person. We give a presentation at orientation and then you can get our contact info there and we host mandatory information sessions. The very first week of classes.
Coming students, so that's kind of the first big kind of biggest point of contact when you go to one of those information sessions, we share more with you about how to become a competitive candidate, and we actually assign you a health professions advisor in your student account so that you have a link to their email address directly in your student account, so that's kind of as a first year student. The easiest way to get connected with our office. But then after that, we're always available over email or phone.
At the main the front desk.
Nicole Hemmerlein
11:25:51 AM
What is the acceptance percentage of CSU students into Vet school?
Tessa Biscaldi
11:25:52 AM
What do students typically do during their gap years?
OK, I'll take the next question here. Is that gap here more because they choose to take it or because they didn't make it in the first try. I would say it's all here. They choose to take it. You know it's it's good that you brought up. You know about students not getting on the first try. It is common. For instance, tonight you know the first try, so please don't be discouraged if if if you don't get in.
On the first try, it's very common for students to apply on multiple occasions. But yeah, the gap year is important for like I said, to build your application and become the most competitive Canon possible. So get in the gap you're looking at. Things like um.
Getting professional experience, whether that's paid or unpaid, a shadowing hours, um, really refining your personal statement, we realized that you only get a certain number of words and there is no, say, a lot of things you want to touch upon. Just show qualified in that you can be an asset to a program.
Lauren Dalecke-Sabandith
11:27:15 AM
I know that CSU is partnering up with CU medical school to open a campus up north. How would the effect incoming Med students?
Ryan Fuqua
11:27:16 AM
How do students hear about the Mandatory Health Professions Advising Orientation? Specifically, will undeclared students know about it?
And we can also help you kind of refine your personal statements. Things like that. So like I said, I, I think a gap year is very advantageous for students to take what there are less students who choose to go straight into professional program. So it's really your comfort level and how prepared you feel in terms of your experience both in and out of the classroom.
You wanna add anything on that boy?
Lizzie Worsham
11:27:40 AM
Will vet schools consider volunteer experience during high school or only during college?
Let's see what else do we have?
Will you want to take the next question please?
Yeah, we don't have any numbers about the acceptance percentage of CSU students into vet school. That's why we talked about it earlier in the presentation that it's a lot more stats game based on where you live, what your residency as if you're a Colorado resident or not resident. Both of those bulls are competitive, but you are in a statistically much smaller pool if you applies a Colorado resident and we have a lot of prevent students as you see, so we have a lot of resources to support them.
But we don't have numbers.
Shaza Mohamed
11:28:17 AM
How do students learn more about international opportunities and programs?
Lauren Dalecke-Sabandith
11:28:41 AM
If students take a gap year prior to the bachelors degree do you see those same students take a gap year afterwards?
OK, and I I kind of touched upon earlier, but what students typically do during their gap years? Like I said, volunteering building professional experience, things like that shadowing, you know, refining their personal statements, getting their application ready, and perhaps even taking the entrance exams if your profession requires it.
And the next question is, I know that CSU is pardoning, earning the CU medical school, open a campus in Fort Collins. We're getting that question a lot, and it doesn't seem like we have a lot of information about what I feel.
And this is just kind of my intuition about that is I think it's gonna be a little bit delayed or not quite set up given that you know warm, uh, none, president, president that I'm with the Cobra 19 situation so I know they're working on setting up the program, but.
They would actually begin.
Nicely will it? Can you add anything on that? I know we don't have information, but.
So uhm, yeah, yeah we have very little information. Unfortunately, the original start date was fall of 2021, so not this fall. But the next fall. We haven't heard if that's changing or not. It is going to be a very small cohort so it's still the University of Colorado medical school. It was going to start with twelve students, so pretty small an admissions will definitely go completely through the University of Colorado School of Madison.
Admission so CSU will have nothing to do with the admissions process that we're aware of, so everything will just go through it to see you branch medical campus. It's on the CSU campus, but it's part of see you.
I told that some of the instructors will be CSU instructors. Is that true Lily?
Their hiring faculty. I've heard there they'll probably be hiring some faculty and they'll be like join appointments between CU and CSU. There may be some existing faculty apply for those positions and all the clinical faculty in town. Those will be CU faculty, but they are not. I'm not aware that they've even hired those people yet.
They haven't even hired a Dean. I don't think further to see oversee the school.
You know we would like more information about that is as well. 'cause we are getting a lot of questions, I'm getting them almost.
At least couple through two or three times a week. I think it's a wonderful.
Program, but how it's going to be implement where we're not sure.
But could you take the next question now?
Yeah, how do students here about the mandatory health professions advising orientation, specifically, will undeclared students know about it? So the mandatory info sessions happen during the first week of classes and then at orientation we typically have presentations that are not necessarily mandatory, but we encourage you to come to them. So we those are advertised to every CSU student at orientation. It's in your schedule.
So it doesn't matter what your major is, it's in your schedule. The undeclared office is actually in the hallway right next to us when we're in on campus working, so they definitely know about our sessions and what we're doing. So if you're in undeclared student, you'll still definitely should be able to get connected with our office.
Grace Gulig
11:32:14 AM
Does CSU have a partnership like the UC Health volunteering, but for pre vet students to gain experience?
Alright, next question, will vet school consider volunteer experience during high school or only cops? Uh, so the answer to that is yes. I would say if the high school experience is directly related to the profession you're going into, then go ahead and put that on your application. It certainly won't hurt you now. It's might be a little bit different in how how they view that. Was it? Definitely, I would recommend. Definitely including that in your application and keeping tractable hours that you've done.
Uhm, it is kind of an honor system about that.
But Yes, it won't. It wouldn't hurt you to include that volunteer experience that you've done through your high school.
No, yeah, it's totally fine to include information from high school.
Next question is, how do students learn about international opportunities in program? So one of the things would be through our newsletter.
Yes, you have a study abroad program. Lily, do we work directly with them or do they communicate with us about unities?
In the health professionals.
Yeah, so the class that Jerry talked about earlier that we taught in Croatia was a really close partnership between education abroad in our office, 'cause I'm so I taught the class, but education abroad accredits the class so the the credit was offered through their Department. So yeah, we work really closely with them. We there are education abroad fairs, they have a. We have a list of of programs that are kind of work well for pre health and prevent students. So yeah we do a lot of kind of rose pearls back and forth.
But the best way to learn about those is to to go to them directly to those opportunities.
OK, next question is, is the students take a gap year?
Prior to their bachelors degree.
Do you see those same students take a gap year afterwards?
So what I think you're asking is upon completing, say, High School, you work in in in the paper.
The professional maybe being a CNA or something like that I'm guessing is what you're asking. Do you see the same students? Uh, take a gap year afterwards. I would say it depends. Everybody is different, but yes.
It it like I said it is I think it's common for all students to, uh, take a gap year I. I've worked with many students already who are working full time full time as EMTs. I've worked with students who are working full time as nurses and then they want to continue on. And the professional maybe who Med school or.
Becoming a nurse practitioner, whatever their their path is, yes, we have a lot of students that.
Uhm, you know, take gap years for a variety of reasons and like we said, the average student I'm going into Med school or vet school is. It's not, you know, right after they graduate it can be much later on in their professional career or academic.
Sure, depending on the path they choose.
The next question here is does see you have a partnership with UC health volunteering?
But for prevent students gain experience.
Uh, you see, health is primarily human.
Health, so to gain experience for prevent suits like I don't think it hurt, but it's not specifically related to the profession you're going into. Well, you haven't even add on that.
Yeah, so part of the reason we don't have a partnership. That's as kind of explicit as we do with the UC health volunteer program. And the main reason for that is volunteering and shadowing in human health care. Is it just a lot harder because there's so many more laws surrounding it? So for example, all the HIPAA laws that protect privacy of patients don't exist for animal patients, so it's just a little bit harder for the students pursuing human health professions to get into those clinical settings.
So we don't have an explicit program like that for previous students. Just because there's a lot of opportunities to get experience without a formalized program like that. Probably one of the easiest ways to get connected with some hands on experience as early as through the pre vet club, which is over 200 students. Super super active. They have a day every year called prevent day where they do hands-on labs and lectures. They also do that in their club meetings. They have veterinarians. Come talk to them. They have current vet students, come talk to them and.
Most students in pre vet club are doing some kind of shadowing or volunteering or working with animals, so you can definitely find those experiences. We just don't have as formalized of a program as we do with that. You see health volunteer program.
I think that was our last question, so thanks.
For joining us we have our email listed on that slide. If you have any other questions, you're welcome to follow up with us later on.
Yeah, thank you for joining us and we look forward to working with you in the future. And welcome to CSU.