Good morning everyone. Uh, the web and our foreign information about Army ROTC and scholarship opportunities will start in just a minute or so. Will give a chance for everyone to complete logging on and then will be underway.
Alright, I see a few have logged on. We may still get a few more, but I'll get started. First, let me introduce myself. My name is Pete Bly. I am the enrollment in scholarship officer for Army ROTC at Colorado State University and our partnership school at the University of Northern Colorado. Little background on me.
I did Commission out of Army ROTC quite awhile ago and spent 30 years in the army combined. 4 of it on active duty and 26 in the Army Reserve and I retired as a Colonel from the core of Engineers. I've also been doing this job with Army ROTC for almost 17 years, so a lot of experience. I can answer questions. I don't get stumped very often.
Uh, so if you do have questions, what I will say is please type in your questions and when I get into when I get to the end of this briefing I will pull up all the questions and answer any questions that you do have.
So with that, let me get started.
First off the agenda, uhm?
Very simply, I'm gonna talk a little bit about what Army ROTC is. I know there continues to be a little bit of a misunderstanding of exactly what ROTC is and what it means to take the class. So I'll go through a little bit of that.
Then I'll talk about program information, little bit of background from the officer production side at connect command that we report to and then more specifically about our program at Colorado State University.
And then I'll devote a chunk of time to scholarships. I know paying for college is a.
A big deal because college doesn't get any cheaper as time marches on. So I will talk about the scholarship opportunities that Army ROTC presents.
And then I'll talk about a few of the other activities and opportunities with Army ROTC and I'll finish up with answering whatever questions you've typed in at the end.
So what is army ROTC? Very Simply put, it's an elective class so you register for a class and a leadership lab and participate in Army ROTC and you are a kid at in the program. Now the misconception that seems to be out there is that by registering for the class, you have a military service obligation and that is not the case. In order to incur a military service obligation, you have to sign a contract.
And there's an incoming freshman. Unless you applied for and received a four year national scholarship, you cannot sign a contract as a freshman. So that year is absolutely a free opportunity to learn more about the army. About Army ROTC about becoming a leader in the army, and to really figure out for yourself whether or not that's a path you want to follow.
No, you do not you although you are able to sign a contract as a sophomore, you're not required to, so you can take up to two full years to make a decision as to whether or not the path of Army ROTC and becoming an officer in the army, whether that's active duty, reserve, or National Guard, is an opportunity that you'd like to pursue. So there's two levels of instruction. The basic course, which is the two years that it is nothing more than an elective class.
Unless you decide earlier than your junior year to sign a contract and that can be done in your sophomore year as either a scholarship or a non scholarship. And then there's the advanced course. The junior and senior year now the junior and senior year portion of the program does require you to sign a contract and commit to military service in the army after you graduate because you will Commission as a second Lieutenant.
And we'll talk a little bit more about that and what all that means later Army ROTC is actually the first step in an officer's professional leadership education, because it is what is required in order to get your Commission as a second Lieutenant.
But what it's really designed to do is teach you more about the Army becoming a leader in the Army, a soldier skills, and to really enhance your knowledge about yourself, your.
Abilities in technical areas in uh.
Your intellectual capabilities in your physical capabilities, so it is it is intended for you to learn more about yourself so that you can truly become a good leader. And to build confidence in yourself.
So officer production is done out of a couple of sources. This pie chart in the upper left corner of this slide really shows that an I'm sorry the labels don't show. It seemed to show up, at least not on my screen. The yellow and green labels are officer production from Army ROTC Army ROTC produces about 78% of the armies officers. Now the yellow portion is the portion that goes to active duty.
The green portion is the portion that goes to Army Reserve and National Guard, otherwise known as the reserve component.
The grey portion is that that's produced by West Point. The military service Academy for the army and then blue is the portion for OCS Officer Candidate School and those two pieces are actually very close to the same size. The one difference is that West Point only produces for active duty, whereas OCS can produce for either the reserves or the National Guard.
And you can see the approximate numbers in the recent past and current for Kinect commands. Production of officers for the army.
Now we do talk about Army ROTC being a leadership development program, so I just wanted to point out a few people that you may be aware of and the fact that they what you may not be aware of. The fact that they received a Commission from Army ROTC at some point. Now some of them went on to great military careers or service to the government, and some of them have gone on to other careers.
Uh, in the civilian world, so there's there's all aspects covered and this is just a few of the people that have gone through the Army ROTC program over the years.
Are ram battalion vision is too?
Really become or maintain ourselves as a world class leadership training program and we're going to take cadets that come in with little to no.
Knowledge about the army and develop them into Army leaders, whether they decide to go active duty, reserve or National Guard really does not matter to us because all serve our country just in different manners and we want every individual that goes through our program every cadet that goes through our program when they Commission they want. We want them to be a good leader.
Uh, and fully prepared to lead their platoon when they get to their first unit assignment.
So back to talking a little bit about the program, the first 2 years I had mentioned is the basic course military science level one is the freshman Class Military Science. Level 2 is the sophomore class and really the program is a building block. It's a crawl walk, want run type of program. So the first year is heavily involved in teaching cadets about the profession of arms, about basic soldier skills.
Skills that all soldiers, regardless of rank, need uhm.
Becoming more understanding about what the army, physical fitness and physical readiness program is and the background as to why it exists and why it is the way it is.
Some basic leadership knowledge and skills, so it's an introduction to that.
There will be some instruction on Army values and ethics and also an introduction to critical thinking.
That moves into the second year the sophomore year, which really takes what's been learned the first year and builds upon it. And, um.
There is a little more of an introduction into army tactics because.
Every soldier has to be competent at infantry skills because regardless of your branch, uhm, and you may have seen or heard overtime about things that have happened during deployments where a soldier that may not have been an infantry soldier was caught in a position where they had to act as an infantry soldier. Maybe there was an ambush to a convoy or or whatever, so there's basic soldier skills and there's tactics that everyone.
Needs to learn and this is part of the development of your technical and tactical skills and critical thinking continues to be a process to that. We try to develop because any decisions that you make as a leader, you need to be able to critically think about what you're going to do, what the consequences are.
Where one action is better than another or worse than another. So those critical thinking skills are very important.
OK, the advanced course. Um, the time when everyone that is in the program from that point on with you for the junior and senior year are contractid so they have decided that the army presents opportunities they'd like to pursue and they have signed their contract which incurs a military service application the junior year or military science. Level three has a very very strong emphasis on leadership and.
The development of your leadership skills because you're placed in leadership roles, leadership assignments and you're given feedback on how well you do.
Now those assignments could be as a squad leader, a platoon Sergeant, a platoon leader. It could be during physical fitness, training and leadership lab. A field training exercise, a variety of activities that the cats do, and you will get the feedback from seniors an from Cadrez. We want you to know all the things that you are doing very well because that those are things we want you to continue to do, and we will also give you some honest feedback.
About things that you can improve upon because we want you to continually develop your leadership skills to become a better leader and prepared to be a Lieutenant when you graduate.
Uhm, it's also preparation for advanced camp. That advanced campus five weeks at Fort Knox, Kentucky. And it is a commissioning requirement.
Uhm, and then there is a military history course. Now the military history course I've got it listed during the junior year, but it can actually be taken either the junior or senior year wherever it fits best in your academic plan. The senior year Ms four year is really the final preparation for becoming a second Lieutenant, and some of the things that you're going to learn during that time is you're going to be battalion staff, so you're going to learn how a battalion staff works in order to plan.
All of the operations that that the Ram Battalion is going to do, whether that be physical fitness training, leadership labs, field training, exercise, some of the extra curricular curricular activities.
You're also going to get some introduction as to what responsibilities of a Lieutenant of a leader. R like ensio evaluations, your noncommissioned officer, your platoon Sergeant, your squad leaders, and counseling. You will counsel them sometimes. It's developmental counseling. Sometimes it's for other reasons because they did something that they shouldn't have, but those counseling sessions are an important piece.
Because you are developing your soldiers and then there's also an introduction to military law.
Our leadership labs are really a common lab for all cadets. Now what you do during those labs in your responsibilities changes dramatically because their setup and most of her hands on. So it's more like a practical exercise of things you're learning in class for the Ms ones, you are primarily the privates and Corporals in or specialists in a.
A squad or inopportune Ms Twos. Now you kind of move up the ranks just a little bit, so you might be a specialist or Sergeant. You're starting to learn a little bit more about leadership, so you might.
Be placed in a team leader position.
Ms threes the juniors. Like I said, You're going to be in leadership positions at squad and platoon level and then the Ms fours are the primary instructors and demonstrators and they help evaluate the Ms threes as their leading the Ms ones and twos through various exercises and activities.
Our physical fitness training program is a portion of the program. It is required for any cadet who has signed a contract or has received a scholarship and their pending signing their contract, but we really strongly suggest that every cadet that is considering going forward and considering.
Going through the program to become a second Lieutenant, participate and we get good participation out of the individuals who have not made a commitment as yet. Some of the reasons for that is the Army can be a physically demanding occupation, so physical fitness is important, but it's also a good.
Good way of maintaining your well being in your house so it really does serve more than one purpose, and that's another reason why we really, strongly encourage that that everyone participate in the physical fitness program. Again, it's led by juniors and supervised by seniors and Cadrez.
No, the juniors are learning how to do this, so they will be able to lead physical fitness with their platoons. Or if it's being led by one of their ncos so that they can make sure that they give them guidance if something is not being done quite correctly. Which also means that there are times when are juniors bite that do something correctly and they will get feedback to correct whatever it is that they were doing that may not have been just the way it should have been done, so it is still part of their developmental process.
Our physical fitness sessions are. They really consist on whole body workouts, whether its strength improvement, upper body, core strength, cardio endurance, all those things will be worked into various.
Routines for our physical fitness training program. You may not get all of those things every time, sometimes maybe more oriented toward upper body or core strength or endurance. For a long run, but overtime you will get all of those aspects of the physical fitness program.
This table is just to give you a quick snapshot because sometimes we have individuals who are coming in as transfer students an missed a year or two.
And are wondering whether or not they are still able to come into RTC. So what you'll see is there is no.
There are no separate ways into the advanced course. It's the three ways of getting credit for the basic course, either progression as an MS-1 in MS-2 lateral entry because someone is either prior service and they've got some military knowledge, or are there currently in the reserve or National Guard or basic camp. Someone who comes in. And this is the the area where it falls to most transfer students. If they're coming in as a junior, they need to get the basic course credit so they have to go to basic camp.
Then the advanced courses everyone together and must three year advanced camp Ms, four year and finally commissioning commissioning as a second Lieutenant.
So let's move to the scholarship opportunities that Army ROTC has.
Um, since this webinar is focused on incoming freshman. If there are any students out there that are going to be high school seniors this year, the high school program is available. I'm not going to focus on that. That is an online application at www.armyrotc.com, whereas the campus based scholarships are run through our program so they are not an on line application once a.
Student has registered for Army ROTC and it is in our program and completed the basic enrollment paperwork which takes about 5 minutes. It's not very much.
They can decide whether or not they want to apply for a campus based scholarship. If they do, they basically come and see me. I will go into the connect command system, pull them up and check a block that says scholarship applicant and that application is now is now started. From there I'll talk in just a minute about what that process is like to be considered and what else has to be completed. But that is all it takes to initiate.
A a scholarship, a opportunity or application. Now the ones that the items in Green here are the ones that are probably most applicable.
Campus based in campus space stem. The only difference is whether or not you're a technical major. So other than that, there's really no difference in those. The guaranteed reserved forces duty scholarship, however, G RFD. That one is a little bit different because that one is funded by either the reserve or National Guard. It requires you to enlist in either the reserve or National Guard, which means you now have a service obligation while you're in college.
Essentially a part time job. One weekend a month, um.
That's not for everyone, but it is a good opportunity. If it's something you're interested in. the G RFD scholarships also have one other difference from any of the other scholarships, and that difference is that you don't have the opportunity to go active duty. So if you're an individual that is looking to go to active duty once you graduate in Commission, that would not be the scholarship you would want to apply for. You would want to apply for one of the other campus based scholarships.
Uh, since the reserve and National Guard pay for guaranteed reserve forces do TG RFD scholarships, your obligation is then two, either the reserve or National Guard.
Eligibility for scholarships is listed here. It's pretty basic. The two things I would like to highlight are down near the bottom where there is a minimum GPA and a minimum AC T or S80 requirement. Now those are minimum requirements that are listed in order to be eligible to apply for a scholarship. what I will tell you is all scholarships are merit based, so minimum GPA's and minimum AC T or SAT scores.
Generally are not going to be adequate for you to get a scholarship. You can apply an lightning does strike once in awhile, but uh, since they are merit based and competitive in nature, higher is better and in just a moment I'm going to talk about what it takes to be competitive, but just know that hopefully you will aim for a GPA and AC T or S80 higher than the bare minimums.
Campus based scholarship competitiveness. Now I've got 4 bullets here, but the highlight is the note in Red. You do not necessarily have to be in the competitive range in each area. These are rules of thumb of things you should probably be aiming at to be competitive, but let me just take one. For example, someone who had an AC T of 21 or 22.
Oh my gosh by what I've got listed here, that doesn't look like you're competitive, but if you had a high school GPA of 3.8 or a college GPA of 3.5, you've kind of counteracted that. So you don't have to be in that range for every category. If you are, that is wonderful. That is great, because it makes you more competitive. And since they are merit based, the more competitive you are, the greater chance.
That you're gonna be offered a scholarship, but if you have an area that you're a little below that competitive area, that is not necessarily a killer. The Army looks at the whole person.
So if you did great in your GPS, but a little less on the essay TRACT, or maybe you did great in all of those, but your physical fittness is a little low, it's still something you can work on. We're going to look at the whole person so it is. It is not necessarily get into these areas at this level or higher, or you don't have a chance. That's not the case.
So let's talk a little bit about the campus scholarship selection process. I talked about initiating the application that for our program comes through Maine.
We do have to have a final high school transcript. Annonaceae TR SAT score. Now some high schools put those on your transcripts, and that's great. If that's the case, that's all we need is the high school transcript. If your high school is one that does not put that on the AC TRS 80 on the transcript, then we will need a print out from your taking the AC TS 80 to validate your scores and eligibility. You do have to complete a connect command.
4104 are what that is, is an academic plan worksheet where you plan out all of your classes from whenever you apply for a scholarship through graduation.
That seems demanding, but it's really not that bad. You can usually get it done and probably 1/2 an hour or so, um.
Major at the University has sheets that say OK, these are the classes that are required and all it is then is planning it out semester by semester. Now the other thing about that form, it sounds like you are locking things in and if you change your mind on something you're stuck and that's not the case either. Um, that form gets reviewed every semester, so if there are changes because a class isn't available, a class is full you change.
An elective that you wanna take, um, even changing major. So a lot of classes would change. All you do is recreate or update the 104 R to reflect those changes.
You do have to complete an army physical fitness test up. You don't have to pass it, but again, in order to be competitive, you probably need to and the higher you score, the better you will have to complete a face to face interview with the professor of military science. That is typically about a 15 or 20 minute interview with the professor of military science, and that will be documented and put into your.
Application packet you will have to go online to complete the cadet background experience form.
It's essentially an on line survey that connect command does for all scholarship applicants. what I have heard is that that takes a typical typical cadet, about 15 minutes, so it won't take up an awful lot of time. You will have to provide me a list of activities like I mentioned before. We are looking at the whole person, so if you participated in sports, if you were class president or treasurer of a club or worked part time or full time.
All of these things, uhm, actually show how well rounded you are and all of that is taken into consideration, which is why those areas, in order to be competitive, are not hard drawn lines. There just rules of thumb.
And then, um, once we start this application process, I will put you in. I will put in a request for a physical in an eye exam that the army will pay for. It's called Dodmerb Department of Defense medicalization evaluation review board that you'll need to schedule, because if you do receive a scholarship, you have to be medically qualified for military service. Before that scholarship can take effect.
We conduct a local selection board and all of the individuals who are competing for scholarships will be ranked.
High to low and then however many allocations we have from our higher headquarters, the brigade we will take those top however many and submit those through brigade to connect command to be validated and for them to issue an offer offer letter to be signed by the.
Professor of military science. Now, if, um, you end up below the cut off line that we run out of allocations, that is not a.
Process necessarily, because there are still other opportunities, one opportunity, and especially for freshman. It comes in the Spring Semester. Arbor Gabe typically has additional money in the spring semester, so once all the allocations have been filled, they see what that's costing for all the schools within the brigade.
And when there is an addition when there is additional money we can send up individuals who did not make our cut off up to brigade to be reviewed and potentially get an offer. That way the other opportunity is as a freshman. You're applying for a three year scholarship, typically, unless you need extra semesters like an engineer student might, but you can come back as a sophomore and apply for a 2 1/2 so and the competition that beat you out on the 1st.
Time now isn't competing anymore, so your chances again tend to increase, so there are more opportunities and the only difference in the scholarships is how many semesters the scholarship pays. So with that that leads us straight into what the scholarship benefits actually are. The Army ROTC scholarships are, I think as good or better than any of the other services on what they offer.
Uh, our scholarships. All of them.
Pay full tuition and mandatory fees and it does not matter what your state of residency is so in-state or out-of-state doesn't matter, it will pay your full tuition and mandatory fees.
No, the army also provides some flexibility because they provide a room and board option, and it's in either or. You don't get both, but if you're let's just say you're an in state student and you've got other scholarships that pay a portion of your tuition, so your tuition is actually down below $5000 semester. You can take the room and board option and you will receive a flat $5000 per semester into your bank account that you can now pay off whatever is remaining of your tuition and fees.
And then the rest of the money is yours. Use it for room and board, use it for rent. Use it for car insurance, whatever you needed for that is your money. You will also receive a $1200 a year book allowance each semester. It's a flat payment. Most of our cadets do not spend that much in books, but there are some technical majors where you might spend over that occasionally so you can any leftover you can save for future semesters. In case you need it. Or again, it's your money to spend.
And once you, uh, your scholarship begins, you will start receiving a monthly stipend or essentially a living allowance, and that is tax free, so you will receive $420 a month every month you're in school.
So let's talk about what all this costs you. The military service, obligation, peace and the piece that gets everyone really nervous. Once you sign a contract, whether it's scholarship or non scholarship, you will incur an 8 year service application now. Before you get too worried about that, there are some differences between scholarship in scholarship and there is also some.
A variety of ways that you can elect to serve that obligation. So the first is to go active duty.
Now most of our cadets want active duty, so you're going to compete for that. Active duty is not a guarantee, so if you compete for active duty and do get selected for active duty, you have to be on active duty for a minimum of four years. With an exception, it's five years. If you branch aviation because you're going to be in flight school for about a year and a half so that cuts down the amount of time your at your first assignment. Once you complete your minimum time on active duty.
You can continue on if you desire, but you're not required to. You can request release from active duty, and when you do that you have three options. the Army Reserve, the Army National Guard, or the inactive ready reserve, or are.
The IR is where a lot of individuals decide to go. If they don't want to continue on active duty.
Took the path of after active duty, I went to the Army Reserve because I still wanted to serve, but I wanted an engineering career outside of the army so it's really your choice. If you do choose the IR that is essentially a manpower pool so you're not doing anything with the military, but because you still have service obligation left. If there is a deploying unit that has a vacancy, you can be recalled. Now let me try to settle any worries about that.
Recall rates are extremely low because they are.
Selecting um people who fill a specific need. If a unit is short of someone and it happens to be an enlisted soldier, you'll never get looked at because you're an officer. If it is a an engineer unit and you happen to be Med service, you will not get looked at. They're looking for an engineer officer. If the position is a Lieutenant and you're a captain, you won't get looked at.
Because you're not the right rank, so they're looking to fill specifics and that's why the recall rates are very low.
And while I can't say that you won't get called, it is very unlikely.
Now the other two options are either reserve or National Guard. Now the active duty option let me go back to that for just a second. When you go active duty that four years or five years, if you're aviation, that is, regardless of whether or not you are scholarship or non scholarship. If you go into the reserve and your scholarship, you have to be in an active unit for all eight years. And like the little asterisk in the note says there, that is mandatory for any GRFD.
That that was offered by the Army Reserve to an individual. If you are non scholarship and decide on the Army Reserve, you have to be in a reserve unit for six years and then you will have the IR option. That same thing applies to the National Guard. It's mandatory for G RFD scholarships from the National Guard and then non scholarships. They again after six years have the IR option. So there are a number of options that you can.
Choose from an request. Depending on how you would like to serve your military obligation.
So let's talk about some of the other opportunities I've talked a little bit about the Army Reserve and National Guard. They have tuition assistance and GI bill benefits, and the other piece about that is not only does it serve as a part time job, but when a cadet serves in a simultaneous membership program status in a reserve or National Guard unit, you cannot be deployed.
If you're if the unit gets deployed because the army is making a commitment to for you to finish your school, you're going to shadow a Lieutenant or other officer, so you Start learning the responsibilities of an officer of a Lieutenant.
And what those responsibilities are?
Uh, it kind of enhances and goes hand in hand with your army ROTC training. Not a requirement, but it is a nice benefit if it's something you're interested in.
Specialty training I get asked about this all the time. Is it possible to go to airborne jump school air assault mountain warfare? Things like that? The short answer is yes. However, you will have to compete for those slots because each ROTC program and there's 274 programs nationwide only get a couple of slots each year for those opportunities and you have to be contractid in order to.
To go to those specialty schools.
Non classroom activities. These opportunities. Some of them are there all the time like leadership lab. If you register for leadership lab, we expect you to be at leadership labs. The field training exercise EFCC that happens once a semester.
Then we strongly encourage all cadets to go. It's required for contractor cadets, but the rest of the cadets it's an option. An opportunity Ranger Challenge. If you are a competitive individual that is kind of like our varsity sport. If you will. It's mainly based on physical fitness, an infantry tasks and we are Ranger challenge teams and we typically have two we have had as many as three.
Will compete against teams from other universities in the western half of our brigade, which includes Colorado, Wyoming, New Mexico, Utah and Arizona. So that's an opportunity. If your competitive individual, we have a Canon Crusoe at home football games are connects fire or 75 millimeter howitzer every time the CSU Rams score a touchdown or a field goal, and.
Why is a very very popular extracurricular activity? We also have a push up crew that's at the back of the end zone. Doing pushups set home football games, we have color guard.
Come and other activities also. So there's a number of optional things that, if you're interested in, you can participate in.
Every year we do a Zero Week, which is essentially a new cadet orientation. It's focused mostly at freshman, but since we have transfer students and others, it's really any new cadet is able to come. Now what I will tell you is this year we don't know yet exactly what that's going to look like because we have to wait for guidance from CSU as to how many people we can have.
The spacing all of the complications that COVID-19 uh has thrown at us, so we're in the process of trying to plan that. But we're also waiting for more guidance, and I'm hoping that within the next three or four weeks, we will have enough guidance where we can start putting out information for zero week. We have been told we can conduct it, it's just that are.
Our activities may be adjusted someone.
There's also a language scholarship program where if you are interested in learning a foreign language and it happens to be one of the critical languages that the army is interested in, which are mostly Middle Eastern or Asian languages, you can endure contractid you can apply for that scholarship program and get extra pay for getting a B or higher, and it's the number of dollars you get depends on your grade and how many credit hours.
But you can get extra pay for completing those language courses.
And then study abroad. I get asked fairly frequently whether or not that's a possibility. It's not only a possibility, but when it comes to the a sessions process, when you're applying for active duty or reply or applying for.
A certain branch you get extra credit for being more knowledgeable and having had that opportunity to study abroad and learn more about other cultures. So it is it is an opportunity that is there for our cadets. Now I'm going to caveat that just a little bit by saying that with study abroad due to the junior requirements of the junior and senior year, we strongly strongly strongly recommend that if you're considering study abroad.
You should be focusing on your spring semester of your sophomore year. That is the most opportune time to do that.
So with that I think I have hit everything that I wanted to hit. Here is my contact information, but I'm also going to add to it. One of the things I neglected to put on this slide is my cell phone, and since we are still teleworking and being back in the office, my office phone is there and that will actually create an email for me. But if you want to get in touch with me directly, my cell phone number is 970.
988-0174 and then there's always my email. I respond to those quickly. Our website.
It has my contact information and it also has a link if you want more information and that will also create an email directly to me that I can respond to.
Let's see if there's any questions that I can answer.
OK, there are none typed in yet, but I will give everyone a chance to type in a question. I'll wait a short amount of time and if there are any questions that way I can answer him. For for those who have attended and if there are not.
Please feel free to send me an email if a question comes up later or call me on the cell phone or whatever manner of contacting me is most convenient for you is fine with me so.
I hope this is been informational. While we were waiting to see if any questions do pop up, I want to thank you for your time and your consideration of Army ROTC and I really hope to see some of the folks that are participating.
Decided to try the the class out. Learn more about the Army leadership and yourself and see if it's something that benefits you going forward as a stepping stone to a civilian karere or even as a full time career in the army.
Those those options are all there.
Well, I don't see any questions being typed in, so with that thank you again for participating in this web cast and I hope you have all have a great day and look forward to seeing you on campus when the fall semester starts. Take care.